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alright, here is the chatlog in full from the meeting


  • 5:02 Kingbirdy so, first order of business, what happened after eragon?
  • 5:02 Narutofreak0 she cant make it
  • 5:02 Kingbirdy we need our own history
  • 5:02 Flamefang I say the Varden won
  • Or no wait
  • Or no wait
  • 5:02 Kingbirdy no, or else we wont have ane empire
  • 5:02 Flamefang Well you could still have an empire
  • The problem would be immortal people
  • 5:02 Rid3r98 @King, do you mean after the book Eragon or all the books?
  • 5:02 Narutofreak0 they moved away
  • all the books
  • 5:02 Rid3r98 ok
  • 5:02 Flamefang Well Eragon left yes but there's still Iszlandi or however you spell her name
  • 5:03 Kingbirdy let me say what I think:
  • all the elves we know died in the battle against the empire
  • it has now been 50 years or so
  • 5:03 Narutofreak0 immortals moved away
  • 5:03 Kingbirdy all chars from eragon died
  • 5:03 Narutofreak0 no that won't do it
  • 5:03 Flamefang Let him talk
  • 5:03 Narutofreak0 the 50 years
  • 5:03 Kingbirdy the varden/empire got a stalemate
  • naru, stfu, I'm talking
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  • 5:04 Kingbirdy and made a truce to leave the varden alone, and let people join them, but they have to find their own way to the varden
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  • 5:05 Flamefang (Plz say 'done' when you're finished)
  • 5:05 Narutofreak0 -hopes he doesn't say done-
  • 5:05 Kingbirdy the elves didnt listen and attacked, but the immortals died
  • (the ones we know)
  • now they're sort of a rogue faction with the varden
  • done
  • 5:06 Flamefang Ok so wait a moment
  • 5:06 Narutofreak0 (immortals don't die,that's the point of being immortsl)
  • 5:06 Flamefang First
  • 5:06 Narutofreak0 *immortal
  • 5:06 Flamefang what happened to Galbatorix?
  • 5:06 Narutofreak0 moved away
  • 5:06 Flamefang He's insanely powerful and not about to go anywhere in particular
  • 5:06 Kingbirdy he was immortal, so he died in the battle
  • 5:06 Flamefang So everyone just dropped dead?
  • 5:06 Oblivion26 If he was immortal, how did he die in battle?
  • 5:06 Kingbirdy all the immortal people got killed
  • 5:06 Rid3r98 Immortal means you don't age
  • 5:06 Flamefang But that's kind of implausible
  • 5:06 Narutofreak0 do u know the meaning of the word immortal
  • 5:06 Oblivion26 yeah, one should at least survive
  • 5:06 Kingbirdy they are only immortal in age, not battle
  • 5:07 Flamefang Ok a second thing
  • 5:07 Kingbirdy alright, I have a diff idea for the king then
  • 5:07 Narutofreak0 the time
  • 5:07 Flamefang The Varden's whole purpose is to fight the Empire
  • Why would it make a truce with the state it was built to destroy?
  • 5:07 BachLynn23 How many major character in the books are there that we want to make sure don't come into play now?
  • 5:07 Kingbirdy the varden didnt agree not to attack, the empire did
  • 5:07 Narutofreak0 the empire won, varden died, old king got overthrown and varden got restarted
  • 5:08 Flamefang I've got a proposition if you'll hear me out
  • 5:08 Narutofreak0 a lot
  • ok
  • 5:08 Kingbirdy hold on, I have one more thing
  • 5:08 Flamefang Ok
  • 5:08 Narutofreak0 yes king
  • 5:08 Kingbirdy instead of the king dying in battle, my king, Eadric, could be like his son or protegee or something
  • and he killed him in his sleep
  • and took the throne
  • 5:08 Flamefang lol does Galbatorix sleep?
  • 5:09 Oblivion26 we dont know if Galbatorix even got married...
  • or even loved
  • 5:09 Rid3r98 haha
  • 5:09 Kingbirdy then it could be a protegee
  • 5:09 Oblivion26 he didnt need to because he was immortal
  • 5:09 Flamefang Well can I propose my suggestion?
  • 5:09 Narutofreak0 alright then, i have a different story
  • 5:09 Kingbirdy sure
  • 5:09 Narutofreak0 k
  • 5:09 Flamefang Ok
  • So in this scenario the Varden wins
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  • 5:09 Flamefang But before their victory
  • The Empire goes on a mass invasion of the Elven forests
  • They consider The Varden to be a minor threat compared to the Elves
  • While the Empire is busy fighting the Elves
  • The Varden strikes and Eragon kills Galbaorix
  • Maybe Murtagh too
  • Eragon flies away as prophesied
  • The Queen was killed in the forest battle
  • and The Varden sets up its own state in The Empire's ake
  • wake*
  • It's the same structure but with a Varden king
  • This is taking place perhaps 100 years later
  • When the Varden King has died and had a few sons
  • The Varden as a group has more or less faded
  • and became legend
  • When Eadric or w/e his name is takes power
  • He takes it by killing his father
  • But since there's no Varden anymore
  • He's not really opposed
  • He takes power, Varden rises again
  • Thus we have the current scenario
  • done
  • 5:14 Oblivion26 i liked it, though the beginninging before 100 years later was a little boring to me
  • 5:14 Narutofreak0 exactly my point
  • 5:14 Flamefang boring in what way?
  • 5:14 Rid3r98 i liked it
  • 5:15 BachLynn23 well does it really matter how we got here as long as it is clear there are no canon characters anymore?
  • 5:15 Narutofreak0 ok i g2g but ill stay 4 as long as possible
  • 5:15 Kingbirdy I like it
  • 5:15 Flamefang Well Bach people will ask questions
  • So it's good to have a prepared answer
  • 5:15 Kingbirdy but what happened during the invasion? they would have to have been stopped
  • 5:15 Flamefang Well
  • The Varden killed Galbatorix
  • So the invasion lost it's leadership
  • 5:16 Kingbirdy allright
  • 5:16 BachLynn23 well no I mean as far as the "it's boring" comment
  • 5:16 Flamefang Oh
  • 5:16 BachLynn23 like as long as we have an answer
  • 5:16 Flamefang Well history isn't always exciting
  • 5:16 Oblivion26 As in like Izlandi just dies in a random battle, and the Empire falls in one strike. That was the parts i found boring
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  • 5:16 Flamefang Not a random battle
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  • 5:16 Flamefang She dies defending the forest presumable
  • And tbh
  • You can't take down an empire like that slowly
  • You'd have to go for the head
  • 5:16 Narutofreak0 ok so every1 agrre that this is the story we'll be using?
  • 5:16 Oblivion26 yeah, but i think it would be better if like she died killing Murtaugh or something
  • 5:16 Rid3r98 yes
  • 5:17 Flamefang Ok she died killing Murtagh then
  • 5:17 Kingbirdy ok, so done then
  • I'll make it official
  • 5:17 Oblivion26 yeah, it good
  • 5:17 Flamefang Great
  • 5:17 Rid3r98 is the meeting done? cuz I have to go now
  • 5:17 Oblivion26 not even close to done rider
  • 5:17 Rid3r98 really?
  • 5:17 Narutofreak0 somebody has 2 take notes and informate soa tommorow
  • 5:17 Kingbirdy hold on a sec while I make this official
  • 5:18 Narutofreak0 *inform
  • 5:18 Flamefang I expect King will be doing that, or a rollbacl
  • rollback*
  • 5:18 Narutofreak0 ok
  • 5:18 Rid3r98 can someone fill me in tomorrow?
  • 5:18 Flamefang Probably
  • 5:18 Rid3r98 ok thanks
  • 5:18 Narutofreak0 i'll ask bach or flame
  • 5:18 Rid3r98 talk to you tomorrow
  • 5:18 BachLynn23 k
  • 5:18 Rid3r98 bye
  • 5:18 Narutofreak0 bye
  • 5:18 Kingbirdy yeah, I'm records master here
  • bye
  • 5:18 Flamefang Bye
  • 5:18 Oblivion26 ok, bye rider
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  • 5:18 Kingbirdy so, next order of business, us getting flooded with riders soon
  • 5:18 Narutofreak0 next order of business
  • 5:19 Kingbirdy I think we should have a rank system
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  • 5:19 Oblivion26 yeah, just what i was about to say
  • 5:19 Narutofreak0 no, we have 2 limit the riders
  • 5:19 Kingbirdy and at every rank, you unlock new char types/races
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  • 5:19 Narutofreak0 yes
  • 5:19 Kingbirdy or promtions for soldiers and stuff
  • and the final rank lets you be a rider
  • 5:19 Oblivion26 that sounds good
  • 5:19 Narutofreak0 ok sounds
  • 5:19 Oblivion26 yeah
  • 5:19 Flamefang Will there be character unlocks too?
  • For specific characters?
  • 5:19 Kingbirdy ?
  • 5:20 Flamefang Like
  • 5:20 Oblivion26 what do you mean by specific chars?
  • 5:20 Flamefang Are these ranks for me or for my chars?
  • 5:20 Kingbirdy your chars
  • 5:20 Narutofreak0 4 u
  • and your char
  • 5:20 Flamefang So they don't all rank up at the same time?
  • 5:20 Kingbirdy the rank is for you, the promotions for your char
  • the promotions are optional
  • 5:20 Flamefang Ok
  • 5:20 Kingbirdy if you like having just a soldier
  • 5:20 Oblivion26 i think the promotions and the user levels should be the same
  • 5:20 Kingbirdy you can keep one, or he can be a captain or whatever
  • ob, it doesnt work that way
  • 5:21 Oblivion26 like when u get a new user level all ur chars upgrade too
  • ehh, just a thought
  • 5:21 Kingbirdy no, no forced anything
  • 5:21 Narutofreak0 yes but then we have the problem that when most people get the rank they will most likely immidiatly create a rider
  • 5:21 Flamefang Goddammit I have to help with dinner or something stupid like that
  • I'll be back in like half an hour I think
  • 5:21 Kingbirdy it will take over a month for people to get that rank
  • k, bye
  • 5:21 Narutofreak0 g2g some1 inform me tommorow ok
  • 5:21 Oblivion26 ok, see ya later flame
  • 5:21 Kingbirdy k, bye naru
  • 5:21 Oblivion26 ok, bye naru
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  • 5:22 Kingbirdy right, next thing, money system
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  • 5:22 Oblivion26 well, we could do what the CHB store is doing
  • 5:22 Kingbirdy no, that system is bad
  • 5:22 Oblivion26 how does the hogwarts system do it?
  • 5:23 Kingbirdy hold on and I'll tell you my idea
  • 5:23 Oblivion26 ok
  • 5:23 Kingbirdy (already had input from flame)
  • so we have a central page that lists everyone's money
  • make it protected to admins only
  • so no cheating
  • all purchase requests are put on one form as well
  • so diff char types would get a salary
  • depending on job, affil, etc
  • then as you buy things the admins deduct it from your total
  • 5:24 Oblivion26 and as ur salary pays it goes up
  • 5:25 Kingbirdy yep
  • and then you can buy stuff you want like weapons and stuff
  • ofc some jobs will give weapons, like the army
  • 5:26 Oblivion26 that sounds good, though i have one suggestion
  • 5:26 Kingbirdy and we may require food or water for long journeys
  • like if the char crosses the desert or something
  • 5:26 Oblivion26 sounds good, but i have one suggestion.
  • 5:26 Kingbirdy k, go
  • 5:27 Oblivion26 instead of a request to buy something, maybe it can be like a memo. Like a char buys an item, and then they put up a page on the forum saying what they brought and how much.
  • 5:28 Kingbirdy kind of what I meant
  • 5:28 Oblivion26 because when its a request i have the feeling people might think they have to wait before they can use the item
  • 5:28 Kingbirdy there would be oen page, and when you buy something you say "I bought this for this much"
  • and they have the item and we approve the transaction
  • 5:28 BachLynn23 someone will hae to keep track of all that
  • 5:28 Kingbirdy admins will
  • maybe RBs in time
  • 5:29 Oblivion26 that sounds good
  • 5:29 Kingbirdy alright
  • so, moving right along, combat
  • we need a combat system. we could do it user patrolled, a la the training forum on CHB
  • (easiest by far, and the best)
  • that would be what I say we do
  • 5:30 Oblivion26 a training forum sounds good
  • 5:31 Kingbirdy not actually a training forum, just the same rules
  • 5:31 Oblivion26 yeah, i know what you mean
  • 5:31 Kingbirdy and then there is the issue of large scale combat
  • 5:31 Oblivion26 I have an idea for that
  • 5:31 Kingbirdy k, you go, then I'll say mine
  • 5:32 Oblivion26 i was thinking of something like CTF, but more complex
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  • 5:32 Oblivion26 Like this is how the battle would play out
  • 5:32 Lele Mj hey guys
  • 5:32 Kingbirdy hey lele
  • I'll be posting the full chatlog at the end of this
  • 5:32 Lele Mj I'm not late, am I?
  • ok
  • 5:33 Kingbirdy half an hour late
  • 5:33 Lele Mj but it was 5h EST, right?
  • 5:33 Oblivion26 Let's say there's two forces, one defending a city one attacking it. The battle would be split inti three stages
  • each stage has an objective thatmust be completed in order to reach the next stage
  • 5:34 Lele Mj that's good
  • 5:34 Oblivion26 and whichever group gets to the last stage and finishes its objectives first would win the battle
  • done
  • 5:35 Kingbirdy k, sounds alright for a siege, but this isnt for a siege
  • mine is for open combat
  • 5:35 Oblivion26 ok, wuts urs?
  • 5:35 Kingbirdy now I think we should have NPC soldiers
  • and each char that is of rank would command some soldiers
  • 5:36 Oblivion26 yes, that sounds like a good idea
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  • 5:36 Lele Mj yeah
  • 5:36 Kingbirdy different types of squads like archers, cavalry, etc
  • then there would be a map of the area
  • 5:36 PerseusJackson ello
  • 5:36 Lele Mj hey
  • where's soa?
  • 5:36 Kingbirdy with each squad taking up a grid
  • 5:36 PerseusJackson *Agrees with king*
  • 5:36 Kingbirdy and then the squads would have diff attacks
  • 5:36 Lele Mj that will require more chars
  • 5:37 Kingbirdy like the archers could attack at range
  • but the sword men could attack only when adjacent
  • etc
  • 5:37 Oblivion26 kinda like chess
  • 5:37 PerseusJackson makes sense
  • 5:37 Oblivion26 only more complex
  • 5:37 Kingbirdy and then we just do a bit of math, and have a person write out the result
  • 5:37 Lele Mj it will be good for the future
  • 5:37 Kingbirdy but with some flair
  • why only the future?
  • 5:38 Lele Mj cuz we don't have enought ppl yet
  • 5:38 Kingbirdy yeah, true
  • 5:38 Lele Mj to command and fight all this
  • 5:38 Kingbirdy yeah
  • 5:38 Oblivion26 That sounds like a good idea for how the two grioups will attack
  • king, how about we combine our ideas?
  • 5:39 Kingbirdy maybe
  • lets discuss it when it becomes more relevant
  • 5:39 Lele Mj yeah
  • 5:39 Oblivion26 ok
  • so what next?
  • 5:39 Kingbirdy claiming process
  • 5:39 Oblivion26 what the problem with it now?
  • 5:40 Kingbirdy we need to change the forum
  • 5:40 Lele Mj why?
  • it is good
  • I just fixed it up
  • 5:40 Kingbirdy people now are familiar with the guide, and so know to use it, but new people wont know, and it only gives limited info
  • that would be a better place to put just links
  • to the char policy, race pages, the guide, etc
  • 5:40 Lele Mj yes
  • that's what I wanted to talk about
  • policys and races
  • we should change the name to classes, it is more accurate
  • and make the pages
  • fast
  • 5:41 Kingbirdy realy we need races and classes
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  • 5:41 Flamefang I'm back for a short time
  • 5:41 Kingbirdy hey flame
  • 5:41 Lele Mj ok
  • 5:41 Flamefang Still haven't had dinner though so that's kinda looming
  • 5:42 Lele Mj how will we make the pages?
  • 5:42 Flamefang Char pages?
  • 5:42 Kingbirdy no, races
  • 5:42 Lele Mj and classes
  • 5:42 Kingbirdy i say copy some info from the eragon wiki
  • 5:42 Oblivion26 i could do them. Im good at pages like those
  • 5:42 Kingbirdy then fill stuff in
  • 5:42 Flamefang Make a page with pictures of the male and female gender and explain them
  • 5:42 Lele Mj we should decide something first
  • will there be stats?
  • 5:42 Kingbirdy no
  • 5:42 Flamefang I don't think there should be
  • 5:42 Kingbirdy not for individual chars
  • 5:42 Oblivion26 no stats, too confusing
  • 5:42 Lele Mj for each class
  • 5:42 Kingbirdy no
  • 5:43 PerseusJackson shouldn't only admins discss this?
  • shouldn't only admins discss this?
  • 5:43 Oblivion26 maybe skills though
  • 5:43 Lele Mj like elves are faster, urgals are stronger
  • 5:43 Kingbirdy no
  • we want to be open
  • 5:43 Flamefang Yeah but that'd be unfair
  • Humans have no real special ability
  • 5:43 Lele Mj how?
  • 5:43 Kingbirdy that was @pers
  • 5:43 PerseusJackson true
  • 5:43 Flamefang All humans have is numbers
  • 5:43 Lele Mj they have a mix
  • 5:43 BachLynn23 ok now i have to go make dinner be back shortly, just have to preheat the oven
  • 5:43 Lele Mj ok
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  • 5:44 Flamefang Yeah but a mix doesn't work when the enemy is specialized
  • 5:44 PerseusJackson ok bach
  • same as flame
  • 5:44 Lele Mj the humans don't have special abilities, but they don't have deficiencies
  • 5:44 PerseusJackson elves and urgals will be OP
  • 5:44 Kingbirdy when the enemy is specialized, you exploit what is weak
  • 5:44 Oblivion26 Ok, classes have skills, not races
  • 5:44 Lele Mj they are the balance
  • 5:44 Kingbirdy kinda ob
  • 5:44 Flamefang Yes but they already exploit you King
  • 5:44 Lele Mj ob?
  • 5:44 Flamefang By being so specialized
  • 5:44 Kingbirdy I think there should be a racial trait and a racial defect
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  • 5:44 Lele Mj yes
  • 5:44 Kingbirdy humans have neither
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  • 5:44 Oblivion26 that sounds good
  • 5:45 Lele Mj that's what i meant
  • 5:45 Flamefang Ok
  • 5:45 Lele Mj and we should decide them now
  • 5:45 Oblivion26 hmm, sounds good.
  • its not that hard.
  • 5:45 Kingbirdy k, dwarves: hardy, but slower
  • 5:45 PerseusJackson yea
  • 5:45 Flamefang I just wonder if a balance is enough to exploit a defect like that effectively
  • 5:45 Lele Mj yea
  • elves?
  • they are faster
  • 5:46 Flamefang Speed and strength according the books
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson yep
  • 5:46 Flamefang Basically just superhuman
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson and agility
  • let's not forget that
  • 5:46 Flamefang Super flexible too
  • 5:46 Lele Mj and the bad side?
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson ummmmm
  • 5:46 Kingbirdy they can all use magic
  • 5:46 Flamefang um
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson um
  • 5:46 Kingbirdy bad side is they dont leave the forest
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson *thinks*
  • 5:46 Flamefang They can't leave the forest?
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson ummm
  • 5:46 Kingbirdy they wont go on offense
  • not they cant
  • 5:46 PerseusJackson nooooo
  • 5:47 Lele Mj sociability and moral then?
  • 5:47 Oblivion26 bad side is that they dont attack at full power
  • 5:47 PerseusJackson nooo
  • 5:47 Kingbirdy but as a race, they dont
  • 5:47 PerseusJackson that makes no sense
  • 5:47 Kingbirdy no ob
  • 5:47 Flamefang ob?
  • 5:47 Kingbirdy oblivion26
  • 5:47 Flamefang Oh ok
  • 5:47 Oblivion26 i know, that one was bad
  • 5:47 Lele Mj so what is their weakness?
  • 5:47 Flamefang So elven characters have to sit in the forest?
  • 5:47 Kingbirdy no flame
  • 5:48 Flamefang That's rather... limiting
  • 5:48 Lele Mj lack of contact with other beings?
  • 5:48 Kingbirdy sure, they don't know current affairs
  • 5:48 Flamefang that's not really a problem in combat though
  • 5:48 PerseusJackson ummmmmmmmm
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  • 5:48 Lele Mj morals?
  • 5:48 Kingbirdy like if an attack was coming, they would always be suprised
  • 5:48 PerseusJackson ?
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  • 5:48 Lele Mj noooo
  • 5:48 Flamefang I thought they were super aware too
  • 5:48 PerseusJackson you mean group attack
  • not single
  • 5:48 Kingbirdy yeah pers
  • 5:48 Flamefang They can see and hear really well
  • 5:48 PerseusJackson *same as flame*
  • 5:48 Oblivion26 hm......affected more by magical attacks?
  • 5:48 PerseusJackson soooo
  • makes no sense
  • 5:49 Kingbirdy alright, how about this: everyone stfu, and we'll take turns
  • 5:49 Oblivion26 fine
  • 5:49 PerseusJackson k
  • 5:49 Kingbirdy dont talk if it isnt your turn
  • 5:49 Flamefang Sounds good to me
  • 5:49 PerseusJackson same
  • 5:49 Kingbirdy ok, flames turn
  • 5:49 Flamefang Ok
  • 5:49 Kingbirdy we'll just go down the user list
  • 5:49 Lele Mj ok, look what I found
  • A weakness in character, but not in life of an elf, is that they are not as adaptable as humans. Elves, with an eternity to live learn things at a slower pace. Human s can become swordsmen experts in practicing within a matter of months, an elf must train for years. A bodily weakness of an elf is that they're not as burly and could not sustain themselves in hand-to-hand combat.
  • 5:49 Flamefang What am I addressing? The deficiency for the elves or all the races?
  • 5:50 Kingbirdy nvm, lele is awesome
  • good find lele
  • 5:50 Flamefang Well wait
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  • 5:50 Lele Mj thx
  • 5:50 Flamefang Don't the elves rape in hand to hand though?
  • In the books?
  • What's his name vs eragonn
  • 5:50 Lele Mj maybe
  • 5:50 Flamefang Eragon*
  • 5:50 Kingbirdy only with swords
  • 5:50 Flamefang That is hand to hand more or less
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  • 5:50 Flamefang If you've got sufficient speed
  • Sword is the best weapon available
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  • 5:51 Lele Mj but they may lack strength
  • 5:51 Flamefang But they don't
  • 5:51 Kingbirdy ^
  • 5:51 Flamefang The books say they have super strength
  • 5:51 Lele Mj we need to make something up
  • 5:51 Flamefang They're a super human race
  • THat's how they were designed
  • 5:51 Kingbirdy numbers
  • they have limited numbers
  • 5:51 Flamefang Ok
  • So maybe
  • 5:51 Lele Mj we will need to differ from the book on this one
  • 5:51 Flamefang Humans can have soldiers?
  • 5:51 Lele Mj noooo
  • 5:51 Flamefang Companions?
  • Why not? That makes up for the number issue
  • 5:51 Lele Mj that wont affect the chars
  • 5:51 Flamefang Why not?
  • 5:52 Lele Mj individually
  • 5:52 Flamefang Yes it would
  • 5:52 Lele Mj only the group
  • 5:52 Kingbirdy how about we stfu again
  • 5:52 Lele Mj yea
  • 5:52 Kingbirdy and let flame talk
  • 5:52 Flamefang Ok
  • My suggestion
  • We've got some really powerful groups of people
  • Elves, riders, spellcasters, etc.
  • What if the weaker races or groups
  • Like Humans, dwarves, soldiers, etc.
  • Can have a group of companions that follow them
  • Regular people
  • and so they've got an advantage in combat
  • Instead of unlocking magical abilities
  • They unlock a new type of companion
  • 5:53 Kingbirdy wait, may I interupt? Ij ust realized we've already solved this
  • 5:53 Lele Mj that makes sense
  • 5:53 Flamefang Crap dinner
  • 5:53 Lele Mj i liked
  • 5:53 Flamefang I'll bbl
  • 5:53 Kingbirdy bye
  • 5:53 Lele Mj ok
  • 5:53 Kingbirdy we've already solved this
  • with the user ranks
  • 5:54 Lele Mj you decided user ranks?
  • 5:54 Kingbirdy more time to get = less elves, and better people RPingt hem
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  • 5:54 Kingbirdy prob solved
  • 5:54 Lele Mj what?
  • 5:54 Kingbirdy we dont need a weakness on the rarer races like riders and elves
  • 5:54 Lele Mj so only one elf per user?
  • 5:54 Kingbirdy there numbers (or lack thereof) is the weakness
  • their*
  • no, but you dont unlock elves till later
  • 5:55 Oblivion26 so ur saying to lock user of certain chars until thier at a certain user level?
  • 5:55 Kingbirdy yes ob
  • 5:55 Lele Mj that's good
  • 5:55 Kingbirdy k, good, prob solved
  • 5:55 Oblivion26 that's a good idea
  • what next?
  • 5:55 Lele Mj riders?
  • 5:55 Kingbirdy so final issue: we need to get this up and running
  • riders are the final rank, lele
  • 5:56 Lele Mj not what I meant
  • 5:56 Oblivion26 I think there is another problem with chars, specifically affiliation
  • 5:56 Lele Mj the weakness
  • we still need to decide those
  • 5:56 Kingbirdy weakness is numbers lele
  • we're dropping the weakness system
  • 5:56 Lele Mj that isn't good
  • 5:56 Kingbirdy if it doesnt work, we can fix it then
  • 5:56 Lele Mj why would someone crate a char
  • cuz there are more of his kind?
  • 5:57 Kingbirdy what?
  • 5:57 Lele Mj if there are no weakness
  • and extra power
  • 5:57 Kingbirdy the weakness is there will be so few of them
  • 5:57 Lele Mj it doesn't affect hand-to-hand combat
  • 5:57 Kingbirdy 5 elves v 50 humans will still likely get their asses kicked
  • 5:58 Lele Mj even so
  • 5:58 Oblivion26 I think instead of weaknesses and advantages, each class and race should get a unique skill
  • 5:58 Lele Mj yes
  • that is good
  • 5:58 Kingbirdy sure
  • so, if I may:
  • elves: magic
  • humans: verstality
  • urgals: strength
  • riders: dragons
  • dwarves: resilient
  • 5:59 Oblivion26 I meant something of an attack or power....though what ur saying aint a bad idea
  • 5:59 Lele Mj both riders and elves have magic, you should change the first one to speed
  • I like king's system
  • 6:00 Kingbirdy no, lele. cause all elves have magic
  • not all of the others do
  • 6:00 Lele Mj and all riders
  • 6:00 Kingbirdy that is a big bonus
  • riders are excedingly rare, though
  • and likely elves
  • 6:00 Oblivion26 but i think dragons outwiegh rider's magic
  • 6:00 Lele Mj it s the same
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  • 6:01 Kingbirdy lele, 2 to 1. lets go with mine for now.
  • 6:01 Lele Mj ok
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  • 6:01 Lele Mj what abbout the other classes
  • 6:01 Kingbirdy so what we really need now is to get everything finished
  • 6:01 Oblivion26 they need a skill too
  • no wait, classes get a special attack
  • 6:01 Kingbirdy we need to decide no the classes first
  • on*
  • 6:02 Lele Mj I think there should be only classes
  • 6:02 Kingbirdy no, lele
  • that makes no sense
  • 6:02 Oblivion26 ^
  • 6:02 Kingbirdy listen to my idea:
  • 6:02 Lele Mj and consider elf and dwarf as a class
  • 6:02 Kingbirdy (for the classes)
  • human: soldier (and various promotions and variations) rider ruler of some kind
  • nomad
  • shade
  • ofc soldier would have all kinds of stuff under it
  • elves:
  • rider
  • magician
  • ruler person
  • shade
  • soldier type thing
  • urgals:
  • cheiftans
  • normal urgals
  • and kull
  • dwarves:
  • ruler person
  • miner
  • fighter
  • religious person
  • done
  • 6:06 Lele Mj miner and religious person?
  • 6:06 Oblivion26 i like it.
  • 6:06 Lele Mj me too
  • 6:06 Kingbirdy k, cool
  • k, cool
  • 6:06 Oblivion26 its better when the classes are catagorized through races
  • 6:06 Lele Mj but you forgot some
  • Bards Storytellers Necromancers Fortune Teller
  • 6:06 Kingbirdy now that is a big list, so lets do class stuff later, k?
  • 6:06 Oblivion26 dont worry lele, when i create the class pages, ill make sure to include all of them
  • 6:06 Lele Mj Spell Caster
  • 6:07 Kingbirdy oh, should we open werecat as a race?
  • 6:07 Lele Mj exclusive
  • to upper level users
  • they are rare
  • 6:07 Oblivion26 yeah, i agre with lele
  • 6:08 Lele Mj I'll change the claiming page
  • 6:08 Oblivion26 Wait, lele, can I do it?
  • i am making the pages
  • 6:08 Lele Mj okay
  • so now to places
  • 6:08 Kingbirdy that shouldnt be on the claiming page
  • it should be in the guide
  • 6:08 Lele Mj I prefer it on the pag
  • 6:08 Kingbirdy the claiming page should just link the the guide, and to policies
  • 6:09 Lele Mj *page
  • it should explain too
  • 6:09 Oblivion26 I think it should be on the claiming page too
  • 6:09 Kingbirdy no, or else we're going to have a bunch of idiots who dont read the guide
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  • 6:09 Lele Mj ppl who are new won't read the guide first
  • 6:09 Oblivion26 hmm, king has a point
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  • 6:09 Kingbirdy they will if they have too
  • 6:09 Lele Mj they have too see how it would be like
  • before decide to stay
  • if they arrive and we just say read the guide
  • 6:10 Oblivion26 ok, look, the classes are on the claiming page, but thier descriptions are on the guide?
  • ok, look, the classes are on the claiming page, but thier descriptions are on the guide?
  • 6:10 Kingbirdy if we put up a thing saying READ THE guide FIRST, IT IS REQUIRED
  • people will read it
  • 6:10 Lele Mj there is already o the rules
  • but we could make it larger
  • but we could make it larger
  • 6:10 Kingbirdy we just need the char policy on that page
  • and links
  • 6:10 Lele Mj yeah, soa was creating
  • there is a link to the guide
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  • 6:11 Flamefang back
  • What did we decide?
  • 6:11 Kingbirdy few things
  • it'll all be in the chat log
  • 6:11 Lele Mj Kingbirdy (for the classes) human: soldier (and various promotions and variations) rider ruler of some kind nomad shade ofc soldier would have all kinds of stuff under it elves: rider magician ruler person shade soldier type thing urgals: cheiftans normal urgals and kull dwarves: ruler person miner fighter religious person done
  • the more important
  • 6:12 Flamefang What about the companion system I proposed?
  • 6:12 Kingbirdy shot down
  • 6:12 Flamefang In favor of?
  • 6:12 Kingbirdy the rank system
  • 6:12 Lele Mj we will make the races exclusive
  • 6:12 Oblivion26 to different ranks
  • 6:12 Lele Mj (and classes
  • 6:12 Flamefang I don't get it
  • 6:12 Oblivion26 right
  • 6:12 Flamefang How does this make people equal?
  • 6:12 Lele Mj we will explain later
  • 6:12 Flamefang Ok
  • 6:12 Kingbirdy what?
  • yeah, what lele said
  • yeah, what lele said
  • 6:13 Lele Mj now, let's move to places
  • 6:13 Kingbirdy so we need to wipe the claiming page
  • and start over with it
  • 6:13 Lele Mj I'll do it
  • 6:13 Kingbirdy ok
  • so now, places
  • 6:13 Flamefang Well I presume they'll be like location pages on CHB
  • 6:13 Kingbirdy yes
  • 6:13 Oblivion26 im gonna create alot of them, most of the cities
  • 6:14 Kingbirdy we have most of the major ones
  • 6:14 Lele Mj the more important should be the "bases"
  • 6:14 Oblivion26 im doing an all night tonight to do it
  • 6:14 Lele Mj varden'd
  • varden's
  • 6:14 Kingbirdy they need to be fleshed out
  • 6:14 Lele Mj elves'
  • empire's
  • 6:14 Kingbirdy we know, lele
  • 6:14 Flamefang I think you should have sub pages for certain buildings or areas
  • 6:14 Oblivion26 we do
  • 6:14 Flamefang Ok good
  • 6:14 Kingbirdy we will
  • 6:14 Lele Mj maybe just pages
  • 6:14 Flamefang Nah
  • 6:14 Lele Mj not sub pages
  • 6:14 Kingbirdy no, sub pages are good
  • 6:15 Flamefang 'cause then it's less clear as to where you are
  • 6:15 Lele Mj that will make access harder
  • 6:15 Oblivion26 not really
  • 6:15 Flamefang Well it should be harder
  • you have to go to the city first
  • 6:15 Lele Mj but is is annoying
  • 6:15 Flamefang Before you can get to it's pub or w/e
  • 6:15 Kingbirdy not really lele
  • 6:15 Lele Mj if you kjust want to go to a certain place
  • 6:15 Flamefang It's not really too annoying imo
  • 6:15 Kingbirdy its not annoying at all
  • 6:15 Flamefang It's two clicks
  • 6:15 Lele Mj two pages to load
  • 6:15 Flamefang Yeah
  • 6:16 Oblivion26 so?
  • so?
  • 6:16 Flamefang That takes two seconds
  • 6:16 Lele Mj no
  • 6:16 Flamefang Two is a small number
  • 6:16 Lele Mj not so to some of us
  • 6:16 Kingbirdy again, two to one lele in favor of flame's idea
  • 6:16 Oblivion26 if ur internet is bad, its not our faults
  • 6:16 Lele Mj yes
  • 6:16 Kingbirdy besides, once you visit the page once it will be in your history
  • 6:17 Lele Mj If I want to go to the throne room, I shouldn't have to go to the palace first if I already know the place
  • 6:17 Flamefang Well that's kind how people travel though
  • kind of*
  • 6:17 Oblivion26 we want it to be realistic
  • 6:17 Kingbirdy also, it makes more sense from an organisational standpoint
  • 6:17 Lele Mj you don't have to post
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  • 6:17 Flamefang On CHB it doesn't feel like a place
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  • 6:17 Flamefang You're just sort of randomly posting
  • In a vague area
  • This should give more of a 'place' feel
  • Like you're in a city
  • Not just a page
  • 6:18 Lele Mj it is a site, it will never feel as a place
  • 6:18 Oblivion26 it has too, as there are WAY more places
  • 6:18 Flamefang Not the same no
  • That's impossible
  • But closer
  • It increases immersion
  • 6:18 Lele Mj well, whatever, yopu won, next
  • 6:18 Kingbirdy this is need, if just from an organisational standpoint
  • 6:18 Lele Mj *you
  • 6:18 Kingbirdy ok, next is getting to work on implementing all this
  • lets go
  • 6:18 Flamefang 'lets go'?
  • Who's doing what?
  • 6:19 Lele Mj oblivion
  • 6:19 Kingbirdy if its your idea, you do it
  • 6:19 Oblivion26 well, im doing places and classes
  • 6:19 Lele Mj it is all that needs to be done, ob
  • 6:19 Kingbirdy I'm doing everything not accounted for
  • 6:19 Flamefang So I write up the story?
  • 6:19 Lele Mj which story?
  • 6:19 Flamefang Backstory
  • 6:19 Kingbirdy actually, flame, its already up
  • 6:19 Oblivion26 The backstory
  • 6:19 Flamefang Oh ok
  • 6:19 Lele Mj for what?
  • 6:19 Flamefang So then what do I do?
  • 'cause you shot down my other proposal
  • 6:20 Lele Mj idk
  • 6:20 Flamefang and Oblivion wants to do places
  • 6:20 Kingbirdy Eragon Roleplay Wiki:What Happened
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  • 6:20 Kingbirdy it needs cleanup, though
  • 6:20 Flamefang k then I'll do that
  • 6:20 Kingbirdy and fleshing out
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  • 6:20 Lele Mj he wants to do everything
  • 6:20 Flamefang Since it was my idea
  • haha
  • You said it needs fleshing out...
  • True statement if I ever heard one
  • You have a bard character right?
  • 6:21 Kingbirdy right, so I'll get to work on the money, and fixing up the guide
  • 6:21 Lele Mj erik
  • 6:21 Flamefang Ok then this can be from his pov?
  • 6:21 Kingbirdy lele, you get started on the char forum?
  • 6:21 Flamefang Like he's telling the story?
  • 6:21 Oblivion26 ok, fine, lele, ill just make the classes then, and flame can make the places, if you dont wasnt me doing everything
  • 6:21 Lele Mj I can't
  • I need the classes defined
  • 6:21 Kingbirdy alright, I'll do it then
  • 6:21 Lele Mj I can do it
  • 6:21 Flamefang I'll take that as a yes then
  • 6:22 Lele Mj but we need the classes defined
  • 6:22 Kingbirdy k, I'll do the classes then
  • then tell you
  • 6:22 Lele Mj ob is doing it
  • 6:22 Kingbirdy well, f*ck
  • alright
  • 6:22 Oblivion26 I'll define the classes, flame, can you start making all the places while i do the classes?
  • 6:22 Kingbirdy I'll do the races
  • so we all know what to be doing?
  • Mr.pastrychef has left the chat.
  • 6:23 Flamefang I'm doing backstory and locations
  • Mr.pastrychef has joined the chat.
  • 6:23 Lele Mj I kinda got nothing
  • 6:23 Oblivion26 im doing classes
  • 6:23 Kingbirdy help with locations, lele
  • 6:23 Lele Mj ok
  • 6:23 Kingbirdy or work on races
  • 6:23 Lele Mj flame, I'll do Du Weldenvarden
  • 6:23 Kingbirdy k, so meeting is over
  • 6:23 Lele Mj and all places inside
  • 6:23 Kingbirdy chatlog is going up

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